if you think after that video you have proof that bat needs nerf you are clown for sure my guy try to do this shit vs decent players you will get destroyed you playing newbies and saying bat needs nerf i mean this bat dance can't do shit vs revenge or if the enemy dodge away from your hit until you finish it the enmy can easliy dag stab you in that 1-2 sec delay that you need to stop that bat Dance i dont get it you are such a joke bat have its own advantages and its advantages is highdamage but you like playing with breaker which makes you silly in my eyes because bat have so high delay to hit the second hit so its not powerful in my eyes also the breaker deals 20 % hp of player in the jump attack hit and its delay so short you can hit with rev and breaker so fast which makes Breaker too powerful too every weapon have its own advantages and disadvantages so stop complaining and dagger have same damage of heavy bat ^^
First of all,this is so much anger just because someone doenst like bat,and second,Bat is faster here on base and easier to crit,and has the same combos as bk enabled and it could be even better with them,and don't forget that bat has more hitstun than bk so you could easily do a dagger sc vs a lagged bk,but not so mucho vs a lagged bat,and remember why nobody uses sp mastery,because dagger stab ps dash and bat slam ONE SHOTS,and last but not least,you said all weapons have adv and disadv,but you called him silly for using bk,so,thats that
The dumbest thing I ever heard is that no weapon should 1 hit when u use sp skill. Like wtf? If u can't 1 hit sp skill than sp skill will just replace hpsp with more sp. U don't have any disadvantages for using it. Also hp skill user will be almost unkillable atleast in cpd. U will get even more stunlocked and u will "buff" Macro bcs u got more hp imo. I can agree with the point that bat spin is too op. But crying all day while roomrules exist is kinda pointless. And lag as an argument is also kinda dumb. Just get decent enemies without lag. The only thing I said was that brk is also a newbie friendly weapon and nth else. If that hits the ego of people so much that they making video after video and lots of post ur just sad.
so the right answer is not that the devs balance the game,but just limit the weapon usage in a game that only has 10 meeles? That's the really most authistic thing i ever read,this is not LOL there aren't 150 options that you could take,and the thing about being unkilable with hp is just stupid,when you have dagger,or cs jump plus uppercutcrits do 107 damage without a wall,and boy,if THIS IS A WORLDWIDE SERVER,you have to take ms in consideration,and the really sad thing is ppl so angry because some ppl says that your easy to use weapon needs a nerf
So why tf would u balance a game for the 50 DM players instead of the 500 td players? There are even more psbat players than dm player's. Also u said that u want weapons not to 1 shot. I didn't even say half of ur arguments. That's just random sht. U balance the game for the biggest player base and that's not dm. Accept it or keep crying. Either the devs wanna nerf it or u banning it from ur rooms. Complaining every day won't change anything. And no u don't have to play against laggers but dm in kinda dead so u have no choice. But like I said why would have balance anything around the smallest player base. Gun already got more players.
Its not about balancing for td or dm,is just balance,the balance of remnants was so much better for all meele, and it wasnt balanced for dm,but wathever,and you don't know me to saying that i cry or wathever,i don't really care,i just play,and i have fun talking about balancing,and the thing about random arguments,do you even read/think on what you write? you said the thing about hp user unkilable in td and i answered the dagger and cs doing more damage than a disfunctional family,and the lag thing is obvious,
No dagger/cs/ps won’t? Bcs u have to nerf the damage if u don’t want 100 hp to be 1 shot. So most likely u will need almost 2 full stabs (against hp skill) which is against macros a lot. Do u even think before writing? U can’t just give weapons less dmg and more base hp? (: “remnants was so much better” “I’m not crying” oKaY bUdDy. Just make ur own server and balancing np.
i never said anything that you are mentioning,except for the remnants and the cry thing,i said that you should nerf dag? or cs? nope,i said that nerfing the bat doesnt make a 30 hp user ''unkilable'' because you have dager and cs doing almost the same,but at least is something that you could do something about it,i don't explained but,i thinked it was obvious,so wathever,and i already was gm on remnants,for a year xD so there's that
None of that was my point. I said if u don’t want to get 1 shot u have either give more hp or lower the dmg of some weapons. U got 100hp with sp skill so bat and dagger deal both more damage. So u need to nerf both weapons damage. And in the video he complains about all weapons of cpdb. So cpdb is with more hp and lower damage not balanced anymore. And no matter how much u nerf for example bat, u are still 2 hits if ppl crit. That’s how crit works. And an other argument was that bat is easy to crit so what u want? Bat dealing 100 damage with 2 crit hits? Nulgath and u compare breaker to crit weapons which is kinda pointless. U don’t even have to learn to crit with breaker which makes it a pretty skillless weapon, atleast to learn it. Ofc there are harder things to learn but I’m talking abt the newbie friendly part. If u can’t see that the discussion is just useless af. It’s easier to learn a weapon who deals always the same damage with a bigger range than the crit weapon. Even though it does more damage.
Okay now we are talking,The problem isnt the ppl has the posibilty to oneshot, the problem is that compared to lets say dagger an cs,when you have the opportunity its almost unavoidable,if you have a weapon like the dagger stab that does his full damage on 3 hits,and its escapable,i see it right,its easy to land,but also pretty easy to avoid,lets contrast with bat,bat you do the burst in one hit,that treaspasses cs, has a decent range,and its pretty fast,dagger is also,but whats the difference?lets put an stupid example, say,i dash you,you do sc and stab me,i have the possibility to avoid some damage,and counter attack,losing half of my health,but not all,but lets say,cdb vs cpd,same situation,i dash you,but you sc me with bat,i lose 60% if you don't crit,and if you crit i'm 2 away of being death,and cs,is a similar story,not onlyits the best defensive weapon of the game,but it can do lots of damages being in confortable positions,and has a nice push,and a basic spam that can do more damage than a bk jump just with putting the camera on the center height,its a thing about the reward being too high with that weapons with the risk being too low,and no,mastery isnt an excuse,because if you dominate something and that gives the absolute advantage in front of everything,even in a ''even skill match'' is still a balance problem
And ye,maybe breaker wasnt the best example to put on there,but i think is right because its the weapon that everyone complains about,but i think it has more risky weapons just because how are the physics and the Crit ratios on the cpdb,in the game now,and that applies to every other weapons that we didn't mentioned,you can sc a breaker jump attack with your own bat jump or spin,or swing,or dash,or uppercut,or stab
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